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    Is he the villain that has used political blackmail to thwart the course of justice and himself out of jail, or is he South Africa's saviour, the prince of the poor and downtrodden? Should freedom-loving and democractic South Africans fear a Zuma presidency?
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    Default Re: He has four wives and faced 783 counts of corruption

    Quote Originally Posted by Comrade_007 View Post
    Is he the villain that has used political blackmail to keep himself out of fail, or is he South Africa's saviour? Should freedom-loving and democractic South Africans fear a Zuma presidency?
    Is this the fellow that were also involve in a rape case or is here a mixed-up?

    Fear Zuma, are you kidding me? ... there is no bigger fear, then to fear ... fear ... you got me?

    783 counts of corruption, is it the record holder for corruption or what are you trying to tell the world? Stop swallowing man, spit it out ... tell it how it is
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    783 is the number of counts of corruption, racketeering, tax evasion and money laundering Zuma faced. It's a lot isn't it, and it underlines the extent to which Zuma's conduct is being questioned. Never mind one count - 783!!! Now surely where there is smoke there is a fire, and where the house is on fire you have a problem on your hand, don't you, and need to call in the fire brigade. Except the ANC does not want to know the number?

    Sure, innocent until proven guilty, but huge questions are now being asked about the illegality in terms of existing law of the PG dropping the case, which turns out to be less about law and more about politics. And then there is the case of Winnie Mandela, a CONVICTED criminal who is now No.5 on the list of potential Zuma ministers, even though THE LAW prohibits convicted criminals to hold high office. How does that work? Never mind the rule of law! The sheer arrogance and "see me care" attitude to these issues never fails to amaze me, and in my mind not exactly confidence-building. It reminds me of the attitude and arrogance of Wall Street bankers: Who needs rules? The market will correct itself. Well, we need rules and we need to stick to rules to create some semblance of order in our societies and markets. Why bother with all this time and effort draing up laws and rulesm and then not sticking to them?

    Should we fear a Zuma presidency? Fear is maybe not the right word, I agree. He is one man, and the ANC is larger than Zuma. I think the writing is on the wall, though, and I hope time will prove me wrong. Let's just say I am sceptical about Zuma - very sceptical. He is damaged goods as they say and his appeal is divisive, not unifying. He sings a militant song at rallies that does not calm people's minds, but instead raises doubt and suspicion. Instead of saying: "Let's get together in these difficult times" his anthem says "go get me my gun"? And this in a society with some of the highest levels of violent crime? Bizarre. Very bizarre. Does he (they) care? Is this what good leadership is all about? I'm digging deep.....

    Time will tell but I'm convinced his time in office will be accompanied by never-ending speculation and suspicion about the charges brought against him and then suddenly dropped. He may think he is above it all, and pretend there is neither cloud nor mist above his head, but this will yet come to haunt him. He may win the election, but he will not win for the good of South Africa. That's my humble opinion.
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    People of South Africa have spoken and Zuma is president. Let us see where the court case is going but for now he has right to govern.

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    There will be no court case ... sad to say ... case closed.

    Congratulations Pres. Zuma, for recognising the old apartheid style school system ... Amandla Nga'wethu ... we are the shinning examples ... including you too ... is it not great!!! Thanks to Desmond Tutu, father of the nation!

    Congrats on your newly weddded ... 1st lady ... long live ... Jacob Zuma!!!
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    Surprise, surprise!: I partly agree!

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    Default Re: He has four wives and faced 783 counts of corruption

    Lukas,

    Whenever I hear the words "The people have spoken" I know that the people have remained silent (and mostly blissfully unaware) and that some loud-mouthed self-proclaimed "leader" has taken it upon himself to be the voice of the people!

    TIA, after all.

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